new space: cellar vs. ground space
The Vranovská space made me think more about a new space for base48. Personally I don't enjoy spending more time in a cellar space. It's because of missing daylight and higher humidity, I think. From my viewpoint cellar is good only for casual meetings, taking medicaments and listening to loud noises. It's not so good for more hours of everyday serious work. However, I know that some members stand up for a cellar space and I respect it. For me, for example brmlab space fits me best because it is a ground space or actually half-ground space that makes it more affordable, and it is close to the city center at the same time. And in my opinion, non-cellar space would be also more attractive for new members. I'd like to know your opinion on: 1. How much do you insist on a cellar space? 2. Suburb non-cellar space is cheaper. How important is the location for you? Can you imagine Řečkovice/Komárov/whatever further district? 3. Are you willing to pay higher member fees for brighter, more aerial space? Can you say how much exactly?
Can't say I don't agree, but the basement is more underground, literally. :) I wouldn't mind. Although, while on the topic, I don't think the financial side of things adds up. We simply don't have enough members to justify the move yet. IMHO raising the fee will work only against us in terms of slowing the growth, which we will so desperately need, if we agree to raise our expenses at this point. We could merge the plan to move with my long term goal to have an office in Brno for vpsFree.cz. That could double or triple what we could be able to afford - though for the purposes of two separate entities that still might not be enough. So I'd say let's get some fresh members first and then figure something out. /snajpa On 07/03/2016 01:53 PM, Karel Lejska wrote:
The Vranovská space made me think more about a new space for base48.
Personally I don't enjoy spending more time in a cellar space. It's because of missing daylight and higher humidity, I think. From my viewpoint cellar is good only for casual meetings, taking medicaments and listening to loud noises. It's not so good for more hours of everyday serious work. However, I know that some members stand up for a cellar space and I respect it.
For me, for example brmlab space fits me best because it is a ground space or actually half-ground space that makes it more affordable, and it is close to the city center at the same time.
And in my opinion, non-cellar space would be also more attractive for new members.
I'd like to know your opinion on:
1. How much do you insist on a cellar space?
2. Suburb non-cellar space is cheaper. How important is the location for you? Can you imagine Řečkovice/Komárov/whatever further district?
3. Are you willing to pay higher member fees for brighter, more aerial space? Can you say how much exactly?
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Mostly agree that we can't afford the move - we'd probably be able to pay the rent if we raised the membership fees significantly but wouldn't have money left for one-time expenses related to the move. Would be nice to save bunch of cash for that first. I like the idea of space shared with vpsfree - together we may have stronger negotiating power. We'd just have to be careful to arrange the cooperation so that it's transparent and beneficial for both organizations. I know that it's the holiday season but I'd like to propose to council and anyone else interested to meet and discuss in person what we should do next regarding the space at Vranovská. If you're interested please select your preferred date: http://doodle.com/poll/z7iaz5hk473ukpfe (For the record I'm going to be offline starting tomorrow until 26th.) b. On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 14:12:31 +0200, Pavel Snajdr wrote:
Can't say I don't agree, but the basement is more underground, literally.
:)
I wouldn't mind.
Although, while on the topic, I don't think the financial side of things adds up. We simply don't have enough members to justify the move yet. IMHO raising the fee will work only against us in terms of slowing the growth, which we will so desperately need, if we agree to raise our expenses at this point.
We could merge the plan to move with my long term goal to have an office in Brno for vpsFree.cz. That could double or triple what we could be able to afford - though for the purposes of two separate entities that still might not be enough. So I'd say let's get some fresh members first and then figure something out.
/snajpa
On 07/03/2016 01:53 PM, Karel Lejska wrote:
The Vranovská space made me think more about a new space for base48.
Personally I don't enjoy spending more time in a cellar space. It's because of missing daylight and higher humidity, I think. From my viewpoint cellar is good only for casual meetings, taking medicaments and listening to loud noises. It's not so good for more hours of everyday serious work. However, I know that some members stand up for a cellar space and I respect it.
For me, for example brmlab space fits me best because it is a ground space or actually half-ground space that makes it more affordable, and it is close to the city center at the same time.
And in my opinion, non-cellar space would be also more attractive for new members.
I'd like to know your opinion on:
1. How much do you insist on a cellar space?
2. Suburb non-cellar space is cheaper. How important is the location for you? Can you imagine Řečkovice/Komárov/whatever further district?
3. Are you willing to pay higher member fees for brighter, more aerial space? Can you say how much exactly?
You need to find sponsors, there is lot of money everywhere for smart people and smart projects :-)
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Mostly agree that we can't afford the move - we'd probably be able to pay the rent if we raised the membership fees significantly but wouldn't have money left for one-time expenses related to the move. Would be nice to save bunch of cash for that first.
I like the idea of space shared with vpsfree - together we may have stronger negotiating power. We'd just have to be careful to arrange the cooperation so that it's transparent and beneficial for both organizations.
I know that it's the holiday season but I'd like to propose to council and anyone else interested to meet and discuss in person what we should do next regarding the space at Vranovská. If you're interested please select your preferred date:
http://doodle.com/poll/z7iaz5hk473ukpfe
(For the record I'm going to be offline starting tomorrow until 26th.)
b.
Can't say I don't agree, but the basement is more underground,
On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 14:12:31 +0200, Pavel Snajdr wrote: literally.
:)
I wouldn't mind.
Although, while on the topic, I don't think the financial side of
adds up. We simply don't have enough members to justify the move yet. IMHO raising the fee will work only against us in terms of slowing
growth, which we will so desperately need, if we agree to raise our expenses at this point.
We could merge the plan to move with my long term goal to have an office in Brno for vpsFree.cz. That could double or triple what we could be able to afford - though for the purposes of two separate entities
still might not be enough. So I'd say let's get some fresh members first and then figure something out.
/snajpa
On 07/03/2016 01:53 PM, Karel Lejska wrote:
The Vranovská space made me think more about a new space for
things the that base48.
Personally I don't enjoy spending more time in a cellar space. It's because of missing daylight and higher humidity, I think. From my viewpoint cellar is good only for casual meetings, taking
medicaments
and listening to loud noises. It's not so good for more hours of everyday serious work. However, I know that some members stand up for a cellar space and I respect it.
For me, for example brmlab space fits me best because it is a ground space or actually half-ground space that makes it more affordable, and it is close to the city center at the same time.
And in my opinion, non-cellar space would be also more attractive for new members.
I'd like to know your opinion on:
1. How much do you insist on a cellar space?
2. Suburb non-cellar space is cheaper. How important is the location for you? Can you imagine Řečkovice/Komárov/whatever further district?
3. Are you willing to pay higher member fees for brighter, more aerial space? Can you say how much exactly?
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On Sun, Jul 03, 2016 at 13:53:59 +0200, Karel Lejska wrote:
The Vranovská space made me think more about a new space for base48.
Personally I don't enjoy spending more time in a cellar space. It's because of missing daylight and higher humidity, I think. From my viewpoint cellar is good only for casual meetings, taking medicaments and listening to loud noises. It's not so good for more hours of everyday serious work. However, I know that some members stand up for a cellar space and I respect it.
For me, for example brmlab space fits me best because it is a ground space or actually half-ground space that makes it more affordable, and it is close to the city center at the same time.
And in my opinion, non-cellar space would be also more attractive for new members.
I'd like to know your opinion on:
1. How much do you insist on a cellar space?
As someone who have lived in one for a year let me say: fuck cellars:) IOW I'm slightly in favour of non-cellar space.
2. Suburb non-cellar space is cheaper. How important is the location for you? Can you imagine Řečkovice/Komárov/whatever further district?
I think it should be reasonably close to the center, or at least have good accessibility with public transport. Something like "at most 15 minutes by night bus from the railway station".
3. Are you willing to pay higher member fees for brighter, more aerial space? Can you say how much exactly?
I am willing to pay for that, not sure what's the right amount though. We probably shouldn't go over 1000 CZK.
participants (4)
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Filip Svoboda - Netajo s.r.o. -
Karel Lejska -
Martin Milata -
Pavel Snajdr